July 07, 2009

God Delusion Refuted

If you haven't seen the short video I made for youtube, be sure to check it out.  I've pasted is below, here's a few things people have said about it:

  • This video is like a huge troll just to get some traffic on the blog.. or it looks like it.. because if there's one thing i'm sure of, is that this is no reasonable refute to dawkins

  • I lol'd.

  • Lol I got to 2:30 and just wanna say that your argument is pretty weak and stupid.. anyways I can see that it has been pointed out by many preceeding comments under me..

  • Hilarious, isn't it?

  • Oh and here are some transitional forms, since you obviously have no science education what so ever.

  • Please, open a science book, educate yourself and think before you make a complete fool of yourself.

  • Lol n0000b! he thinks theres a god what an outdated idea lolololololololol

  • Terrible reasoning, kiddo. Gee, I've never heard the watchmaker argument before! Stay in school.




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20 comments:

Vagon said...

Was there a point to providing those comments?

AJ said...

Just thought they were funny, maybe someone will watch the video who hadn't before.

ExPatMatt said...

So you are trolling for traffic....

Vagon said...

Come on man, you're better than that.

Taking the criticism on board or refuting takes class, wearing it like a badge is just silly.

Brazen Hussey's said...

@ ExPatMatt:

I guess it worked!
;)

@ Vagon:

It is an ironic merit badge, but I had to laugh myself. I think the kid's got spunk.

@ AJ:

I rather enjoyed the video, I think you ought to make more, practice makes...well, better, if not perfect!

It was a good start imo.

btw: what in the name of my dog does "noooob" mean? Am I a relic?

Vagon said...

Noooob

Long version of Noob.

Phonetic representation of Newb

Shortening of Newbie

Moniker for new person on the internet.

AKA n00b, nub or nublet.

Most common in gaming.

Da Bomb said...

AJ,

You had some good points in there,

I particularly liked what you brought up about Dawkin's "who made God".

Theists don't believe in a created God, so his argument runs void.
Also the question who made God assumes that God is a substance made up of something which is not what theists believe.

He seems to accept the idea of an eternal energy or whatever but struggles with the concept of eternal God.

He likes the idea of chaos over design.

I don't have enough faith for chaos.

cheers,

DB

ExPatMatt said...

Da Bomb,

Define 'chaos'

Define 'design'

Define 'define' (just kidding!)

Brazen,

Hey, I've been hanging around here for ages and I haven't even watched the video!

Da Bomb said...

EPM,

Analogy:
Someone is on a cliff and they fell.
Did they fall or were they pushed?

A universe of chaos fell into placed and a cosmos was pushed into place. (design)

catchya,

DB

Froggie said...

AJ,

Tere is one major fail that runs through the whole video and that is the difference between bilogical stuff and non- biological stuff.

It is totally irrational and illogical to compare the two.

This is the worst argument a fundamentalist could make. Even Ken Ham doesn't use it any longer.

You do know that biological things reproduce biologically, dont you?

ExPatMatt said...

Da Bomb,

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

It's not even an analogy, it's just....weird!

Could you explain a bit more (and define chaos and design), please?

Cheers,

Da Bomb said...

Yeah maybe a weird analogy :)

I am surprised you don't get my point but oh well...sigh.

chaos = unguided, purposeless, without a will to gain an end result. Chaos could end anywhere and for it to produce us is highly unlikely.

Design= guided, purposeful, with a will to gain an end result. Design will end somewhere intended and would more likely bring about someone as complex as us and our universe.

That better?

DB

ExPatMatt said...

Da Bomb,

Much better! I didn't see how that related to a guy falling off a cliff is all!

Snowflakes are formed from a chaotic process without any guidance and with no will behind them...yet they are ordered, symmetrical and complex.

There are many examples of order coming from a seemingly chaotic origin.

Also, who (atheists, I presume) has said that the universe is chaotic in the way you describe?

Cheers,

AJ said...

Matt,

I would rather call it marketing... than trolling.

Trolling is when you go on some forum or something and post a lot to get traffic.

Smart internet marketing is getting involved in communities (forums, youtube, blogs) to promote what you are trying to promote.

Some people do it for fun, and others do it for fun and traffic... and trollers just do it for traffic.

I having been doing much lately... been busy during the summer (vacation and all). Things are starting to slow down again.

It's still hard to find time for blogs and stuff right now, but once the summers over I'll have a lot of time.

Da Bomb said...

Hey Matt,

I might ask you a question about your atheism...
How is your view/understanding of our universe different from the one I posted below?

"chaos = unguided, purposeless, without a will to gain an end result. Chaos could end anywhere and for it to produce us is highly unlikely".

cheers,

DB

ExPatMatt said...

Da Bomb,

Given your definition of;

"chaos = unguided, purposeless, without a will to gain an end result. Chaos could end anywhere and for it to produce us is highly unlikely".

I would only change the end bit to say; 'we have no idea how likely or unlikely it is that we would be a product of this universe'

Also, as I've said many times before; my view/understanding of the universe is not based on my atheism.

Cheers,

Da Bomb said...

Ok EPM,

"'we have no idea how likely or unlikely it is that we would be a product of this universe'"

So here it is again... dis-belief in God.

I could reply...I dis-believe in the non existance of God.

EPM, obviously you probably live like there is no God even though you don't know if there is no God.

You have chosen your belief...and you need to fulfill the burden of proof for your belief.

You have faith and so do I.

cheers,

DB

ExPatMatt said...

Sorry Da Bomb, but you're totally wrong.

Just because we can't quantify the likelihood of an event (inception of the universe) happening with our current information, does not mean that believing or not believing in a specific God, that some people claim is responsible for it, are two sides of the same coin.

Just because you don't know something with absolute certainty does not mean that you need faith to believe or disbelieve it.

I don't know that the world wasn't created by the FSM, but that doesn't mean that my lack of belief in the FSM is based on faith. I'm not making a faith-based statement when I say that I don't believe in the FSM. There's no evidence to suggest it, so I don't believe it.

You're the one who is positing a positive position (check out those p's!) about what happened with regard to the creation of the universe and so you have both the faith that it occurred the way your Holy Book says it did, and the burden of proof to demonstrate that it happened that way.

I say that I am unconvinced by any supernatural explanations for things like the origin of the universe because of the lack of evidence. However, drawing this conclusion isn't a 'belief', it just a tentative opinion.

Regards,

Da Bomb said...

LOL,

I disagree, but thanks for the discussions!

DB

ExPatMatt said...

Da Bomb,

It's not really a discussion if you just say "I disagree" and don't back it up with anything!

Laters,